This was a free entry tournament which started with about 600 players... i was playing aggressively trying to stop the blinds from killing me...
Full Tilt Poker Game #15672553636: Aus Poker Hero Qualifier (114750757), Table 52 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:43:07 ET - 2009/10/29
Seat 1: A Poker Chief (495), is sitting out
Seat 2: jomoro9 (580), is sitting out
Seat 3: Wardy88 (3,620)
Seat 4: bulldogtyler (8,786)
Seat 5: TyHarms (965), is sitting out
Seat 6: catscan (8,965)
Seat 7: theleaper (560), is sitting out
Seat 8: Aussie_77721 (670), is sitting out
Seat 9: Randy_Knight (9,220)
Wardy88 posts the small blind of 60
bulldogtyler posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wardy88 [Qh 9s]
TyHarms folds
catscan calls 120
theleaper folds
Aussie_77721 folds
Randy_Knight folds
A Poker Chief folds
jomoro9 folds
Wardy88 calls 60
bulldogtyler checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh 9h 7d]
Wardy88 bets 200
bulldogtyler calls 200
catscan raises to 400
Wardy88 has 15 seconds left to act
Wardy88 calls 200
bulldogtyler calls 200
*** TURN *** [Jh 9h 7d] [Qd]
Wardy88 bets 550
bulldogtyler folds
catscan calls 550
*** RIVER *** [Jh 9h 7d Qd] [Ah]
Wardy88 bets 1,200
catscan raises to 2,400
Wardy88 raises to 2,550, and is all in
catscan calls 150
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Wardy88 shows [Qh 9s] two pair, Queens and Nines
catscan shows [5h 4h] a flush, Ace high
catscan wins the pot (7,760) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,760 | Rake 0
Board: [Jh 9h 7d Qd Ah]
Seat 1: A Poker Chief didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: jomoro9 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Wardy88 (small blind) showed [Qh 9s] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 4: bulldogtyler (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: TyHarms didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: catscan showed [5h 4h] and won (7,760) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: theleaper didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Aussie_77721 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Randy_Knight didn't bet (folded)
After the flop on this hand i was facing two opponents who were pretty much limping every hand and rarely raising... i had pushed them both off pots several hands before with continuation bets... when i was flat called and min-raised, i thought that catscan was making a weak attempt at pushing me off a pot due to the fact that i had raised nearly every flop I've seen... that coupled with the pot odds (nearly 6 to 1) and the fact that i believed i could push catscan off the pot on the turn... i called...
When the queen flopped i knew i had the best hand and i wanted to bet enough to get called but also not give the correct odds to call for a flush draw... my bet size is ok i believe, if i had of made it bigger catscan would have called anyway (he had called me to the river with a middle pair in a previous hand so i believe he isn't a very solid player)...
When the Ah hits i believe its a good card because catscan has played many rag Aces further than he should before... two pair was an option i thought about but the pot was too big for me to make a lay down like this... when i saw the flush i thought i should have bet more on the turn... its a marginal choice but i should have given him less respect and bet more i believe...
If anyone can see any glaring mistakes i made during this hand please let me know... I'm always open to constructive criticism...
Signing off
Shane
Thursday, October 29, 2009
KT vs AT
In relation to the last post i made there was a hand were i had AJ against KJ... I played this tourney later that day...
PokerStars Game #34645419255: Tournament #207790808, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/10/29 8:50:45 ET
Table '207790808 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Digivally (1000 in chips)
Seat 3: jugtheripper (6445 in chips)
Seat 4: Wolfe40 (2520 in chips)
Seat 5: VomiD (6770 in chips)
Seat 6: Gotharag (3865 in chips)
Seat 7: ShaneWard88 (530 in chips)
Seat 9: Nikolay14087 (4005 in chips)
Gotharag: posts small blind 50
ShaneWard88: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Ts Kh]
Nikolay14087: raises 100 to 200
Digivally: raises 800 to 1000 and is all-in
jugtheripper: folds
Wolfe40: folds
VomiD: folds
Gotharag: folds
ShaneWard88: calls 430 and is all-in
Nikolay14087: folds
Uncalled bet (470) returned to Digivally
*** FLOP *** [5h 4d 8h]
*** TURN *** [5h 4d 8h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [5h 4d 8h 6s] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ShaneWard88: shows [Ts Kh] (a pair of Tens)
Digivally: shows [Td Ac] (a pair of Tens - Ace kicker)
Digivally collected 1310 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1310 | Rake 0
Board [5h 4d 8h 6s Tc]
Seat 2: Digivally showed [Td Ac] and won (1310) with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: jugtheripper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Wolfe40 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: VomiD (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Gotharag (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: ShaneWard88 (big blind) showed [Ts Kh] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 9: Nikolay14087 folded before Flop
Im getting 3 to 1 on my money and i only had an M of 2.8 and i had a quarter of my stack committed... this player had pushed against me with A5 after my preflop raise a few hands earlier so i assumed their range would be large...
I just want to point out that i think its funny how close this was to the last hand of the last tourney i played and how when its me on the receiving end i lose but the muppet makes his two outer when he's on the receiving end... wheres the justice?
PokerStars Game #34645419255: Tournament #207790808, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/10/29 8:50:45 ET
Table '207790808 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Digivally (1000 in chips)
Seat 3: jugtheripper (6445 in chips)
Seat 4: Wolfe40 (2520 in chips)
Seat 5: VomiD (6770 in chips)
Seat 6: Gotharag (3865 in chips)
Seat 7: ShaneWard88 (530 in chips)
Seat 9: Nikolay14087 (4005 in chips)
Gotharag: posts small blind 50
ShaneWard88: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Ts Kh]
Nikolay14087: raises 100 to 200
Digivally: raises 800 to 1000 and is all-in
jugtheripper: folds
Wolfe40: folds
VomiD: folds
Gotharag: folds
ShaneWard88: calls 430 and is all-in
Nikolay14087: folds
Uncalled bet (470) returned to Digivally
*** FLOP *** [5h 4d 8h]
*** TURN *** [5h 4d 8h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [5h 4d 8h 6s] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ShaneWard88: shows [Ts Kh] (a pair of Tens)
Digivally: shows [Td Ac] (a pair of Tens - Ace kicker)
Digivally collected 1310 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1310 | Rake 0
Board [5h 4d 8h 6s Tc]
Seat 2: Digivally showed [Td Ac] and won (1310) with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: jugtheripper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Wolfe40 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: VomiD (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Gotharag (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: ShaneWard88 (big blind) showed [Ts Kh] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 9: Nikolay14087 folded before Flop
Im getting 3 to 1 on my money and i only had an M of 2.8 and i had a quarter of my stack committed... this player had pushed against me with A5 after my preflop raise a few hands earlier so i assumed their range would be large...
I just want to point out that i think its funny how close this was to the last hand of the last tourney i played and how when its me on the receiving end i lose but the muppet makes his two outer when he's on the receiving end... wheres the justice?
Murmuc the Muppet
This is the story about a player I played against in a $1 tourney named Murmuc... these series of hands are pretty much the proof i need to see that i am unavoidably unlucky at this game, bar the first hand which was an obvious mistake on my part but i will explain my thinking after... here is the first hand i was involved with Murmuc in...
PokerStars Game #34639963546: Tournament #207758224, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/29 3:23:49 ET
Table '207758224 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: georgie070 (2180 in chips)
Seat 2: tntrn (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 (1380 in chips)
Seat 4: yuka17 (1360 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (1420 in chips)
Seat 6: evalettner (1220 in chips)
Seat 7: murmuc (2370 in chips)
Seat 8: Bearenda (2080 in chips)
georgie070: posts small blind 10
tntrn: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Qc Qd]
ShaneWard88: raises 80 to 100
yuka17: folds
KizzOurAcez: folds
evalettner: folds
murmuc: calls 100
Bearenda: folds
yuka17 has returned
georgie070: raises 200 to 300
tntrn: folds
ShaneWard88: calls 200
murmuc: raises 200 to 500
georgie070: raises 1680 to 2180 and is all-in
ShaneWard88: folds
murmuc: calls 1680
*** FLOP *** [8c 5d 4s]
ShaneWard88 said, "wow"
*** TURN *** [8c 5d 4s] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [8c 5d 4s 7c] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
georgie070: shows [Ah Kh] (a pair of Fives)
murmuc: shows [7h 2s] (two pair, Sevens and Fives)
murmuc collected 4680 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4680 | Rake 0
Board [8c 5d 4s 7c 5h]
Seat 1: georgie070 (small blind) showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 2: tntrn (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 folded before Flop
Seat 4: yuka17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: evalettner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: murmuc showed [7h 2s] and won (4680) with two pair, Sevens and Fives
Seat 8: Bearenda (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
So as you can see I believe Murmuc is lacking a basic understanding of poker... or didn't care about the $1 and was just goofing around... at the time i assumed he was just being silly so I held back my opinions...
In relation to my fold, I'm not sure that folding queens here is absolutely terrible... I hadn't played against these players long enough to put them in a category of player so i assumed they were generally solid (as I assume most players are when I don't know their playing style)...We were still in the first blind level and I had an M of 46 so there was no need for me to get into a position were i could lose all my chips so early in the tournament... with these factors in mind I had to look at the actual play that had unfolded... I raised from UTG 5x the BB, in my eyes this displays a lot of strength... I was then flat called from Murmuc and re raised from the SB... at this point my range that i had the other two players on was still relatively wide... Murmuc only flat called meaning that he could be playing suited connectors/small pairs... the SB's raise does indicate more strength and i actually put them on a high A and most probably AK... so my plan is to flat call and see if any over cards flop and proceed with caution from there... when the action got back around to Murmuc he min re raises... now this to me so early in the tournament against a raise and a re rais and a call just screams AA, i have seen this move many times when playing the micro limits so I really didnt feel comfortable with my QQ any more and after the SB pushes all in i believe that at best i am a 55 to 45 percent favourite against only one of my opponents... and the likelyhood someone would play JJ like this in the SB is arguable... i still have an M of 36 if i fold so i choose to fold...
In retrospect I should have taken into the account that its a micro limit table where players believe that K 10os is the nuts... I also should know that the blinds are increasing at a rapid rate and my M of 36 will severely decrease in only a few more hands... and finally that its only $1, it may not seem much after talking about it but i only have about $45 in my bankroll so i need to make every tourney count...
So whether my fold was a muppet play or not I was surprized to say the least when Murmuc showed 72os... but happy that i had a good read on the SB... I didnt say anything but inside i was steaming, here i was folding QQ thinking I was so much better than these muppets just to get it thrown in my face that im trying to dam hard...
The next hand in question came about 4 hands later and i was up against Murmuc again... when i was dealt this i was tilting a bit still so that explains my uncautios play...
PokerStars Game #34640019636: Tournament #207758224, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/29 3:27:53 ET
Table '207758224 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: tntrn (1920 in chips)
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 (1070 in chips)
Seat 4: yuka17 (1330 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (1720 in chips)
Seat 6: evalettner (2010 in chips)
Seat 7: murmuc (3490 in chips)
Seat 8: Bearenda (1960 in chips)
evalettner: posts small blind 15
murmuc: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Jd Ah]
Bearenda: folds
tntrn: folds
ShaneWard88: raises 90 to 120
yuka17: folds
KizzOurAcez: calls 120
evalettner: folds
murmuc: raises 330 to 450
ShaneWard88: raises 620 to 1070 and is all-in
KizzOurAcez: folds
murmuc: calls 620
*** FLOP *** [6h 9s 3d]
*** TURN *** [6h 9s 3d] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [6h 9s 3d 6s] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
murmuc: shows [Jc Kc] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
ShaneWard88: shows [Jd Ah] (a pair of Sixes)
murmuc collected 2275 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2275 | Rake 0
Board [6h 9s 3d 6s Kh]
Seat 2: tntrn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 showed [Jd Ah] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: yuka17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: evalettner (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: murmuc (big blind) showed [Jc Kc] and won (2275) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 8: Bearenda folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Now my pre flop raise was pretty standard with AJos and i started the hand well... when Murmuc made a re raise it just brought back memories of his weak raise with 72os and i instantly pushed all in... this is absolutely an incorrect play... my usual style is to flat call and see a flop because i believe i am better than alot of players at these limits at knowing where i stand after the flop and i can outplay them from there... if i had of taken this approach i may have been able to win the hand instead of just tilting and pushing in... after Murmuc insta called and i saw his KJc i was already berating myself for tilting, even tho i knew i had him dominated i was saying to myself "here comes a king" when the turn didnt bring it i had a spark of hope that the maths might actually work... but no the old faithful river brings my tourney to a premature end once again...
Before i exited i wrote in the chat "nh sir well played"... i don't really like chatting and i rarely take out my frusterations in the chat box but when i do i take this approach, i sarcastically compliment my opponents bad play... this serves two purposes... if anybody at the table is paying attention they will realise i am being sarcastic and get some amusement out of it... and also that the muppet usually wont realise that they made a bad play and it was all "luck", they will then believe this is the way to play and the other 9 times out of 10 that this situation arises i will win all their money...
After i left i began writing this... I had to return to the tournament table to get the hand info, in doing so i realized that Murmuc was no longer in the tournament... i grabbed the hand info on the hand he lost... this happend two hands after i was eliminated...
PokerStars Game #34640076817: Tournament #207758224, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/29 3:32:04 ET
Table '207758224 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: tntrn (3870 in chips)
Seat 4: yuka17 (1285 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (3440 in chips)
Seat 6: evalettner (1455 in chips)
Seat 7: murmuc (1745 in chips)
Seat 8: Bearenda (1705 in chips)
murmuc: posts small blind 15
Bearenda: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
tntrn: folds
yuka17: folds
KizzOurAcez: calls 30
evalettner: calls 30
murmuc: calls 15
Bearenda: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks 8h 5h]
murmuc: checks
Bearenda: checks
KizzOurAcez: bets 90
evalettner: calls 90
murmuc: raises 210 to 300
Bearenda: folds
KizzOurAcez: raises 3110 to 3410 and is all-in
evalettner: folds
murmuc: calls 1415 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1695) returned to KizzOurAcez
*** TURN *** [Ks 8h 5h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 8h 5h 8d] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
murmuc: shows [5s Jh] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
KizzOurAcez: shows [As Kc] (a full house, Kings full of Eights)
KizzOurAcez collected 3640 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3640 | Rake 0
Board [Ks 8h 5h 8d Kd]
Seat 2: tntrn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: yuka17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez showed [As Kc] and won (3640) with a full house, Kings full of Eights
Seat 6: evalettner (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: murmuc (small blind) showed [5s Jh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 8: Bearenda (big blind) folded on the Flop
This is one of my biggest problems with losing to muppets... they take all my money on a bad play and then lose it to someone else with another bad play... its like cant you just lose when maths says you should? or at least take my money and realize you now have plenty of chips and don't have to be an idiot anymore? but no they insist on playing like a muppet and just losing all my chips that i deserve... i have noticed that when i get knocked out of a tourney early its rarely to a player who has a chance of winning (these players wont play large pots early even with premier hands just to avoid large swings)...
I realize that i post alot of bad beats and muppet plays and the glaring contradiction i mentioned in a previous post is always in my mind... and i will start posting tourneys that i win and places were my hand holds up against an underdog hand... I do realise that when a bad beat happens it stands out in my mind as opposed to when my hand holds up... but its a bit ridiculous when i can say "here comes a King" when he only has two outs and have it hit... what are the odds of that? The second i find a hand were i am an underdog and i draw out against a better hand i will post it... i cant actually remember that happening and i dont have any in my hand history storage but ill keep my eyes open...
signing off
Shane
PokerStars Game #34639963546: Tournament #207758224, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/10/29 3:23:49 ET
Table '207758224 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: georgie070 (2180 in chips)
Seat 2: tntrn (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 (1380 in chips)
Seat 4: yuka17 (1360 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (1420 in chips)
Seat 6: evalettner (1220 in chips)
Seat 7: murmuc (2370 in chips)
Seat 8: Bearenda (2080 in chips)
georgie070: posts small blind 10
tntrn: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Qc Qd]
ShaneWard88: raises 80 to 100
yuka17: folds
KizzOurAcez: folds
evalettner: folds
murmuc: calls 100
Bearenda: folds
yuka17 has returned
georgie070: raises 200 to 300
tntrn: folds
ShaneWard88: calls 200
murmuc: raises 200 to 500
georgie070: raises 1680 to 2180 and is all-in
ShaneWard88: folds
murmuc: calls 1680
*** FLOP *** [8c 5d 4s]
ShaneWard88 said, "wow"
*** TURN *** [8c 5d 4s] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [8c 5d 4s 7c] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
georgie070: shows [Ah Kh] (a pair of Fives)
murmuc: shows [7h 2s] (two pair, Sevens and Fives)
murmuc collected 4680 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4680 | Rake 0
Board [8c 5d 4s 7c 5h]
Seat 1: georgie070 (small blind) showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 2: tntrn (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 folded before Flop
Seat 4: yuka17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: evalettner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: murmuc showed [7h 2s] and won (4680) with two pair, Sevens and Fives
Seat 8: Bearenda (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
So as you can see I believe Murmuc is lacking a basic understanding of poker... or didn't care about the $1 and was just goofing around... at the time i assumed he was just being silly so I held back my opinions...
In relation to my fold, I'm not sure that folding queens here is absolutely terrible... I hadn't played against these players long enough to put them in a category of player so i assumed they were generally solid (as I assume most players are when I don't know their playing style)...We were still in the first blind level and I had an M of 46 so there was no need for me to get into a position were i could lose all my chips so early in the tournament... with these factors in mind I had to look at the actual play that had unfolded... I raised from UTG 5x the BB, in my eyes this displays a lot of strength... I was then flat called from Murmuc and re raised from the SB... at this point my range that i had the other two players on was still relatively wide... Murmuc only flat called meaning that he could be playing suited connectors/small pairs... the SB's raise does indicate more strength and i actually put them on a high A and most probably AK... so my plan is to flat call and see if any over cards flop and proceed with caution from there... when the action got back around to Murmuc he min re raises... now this to me so early in the tournament against a raise and a re rais and a call just screams AA, i have seen this move many times when playing the micro limits so I really didnt feel comfortable with my QQ any more and after the SB pushes all in i believe that at best i am a 55 to 45 percent favourite against only one of my opponents... and the likelyhood someone would play JJ like this in the SB is arguable... i still have an M of 36 if i fold so i choose to fold...
In retrospect I should have taken into the account that its a micro limit table where players believe that K 10os is the nuts... I also should know that the blinds are increasing at a rapid rate and my M of 36 will severely decrease in only a few more hands... and finally that its only $1, it may not seem much after talking about it but i only have about $45 in my bankroll so i need to make every tourney count...
So whether my fold was a muppet play or not I was surprized to say the least when Murmuc showed 72os... but happy that i had a good read on the SB... I didnt say anything but inside i was steaming, here i was folding QQ thinking I was so much better than these muppets just to get it thrown in my face that im trying to dam hard...
The next hand in question came about 4 hands later and i was up against Murmuc again... when i was dealt this i was tilting a bit still so that explains my uncautios play...
PokerStars Game #34640019636: Tournament #207758224, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/29 3:27:53 ET
Table '207758224 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: tntrn (1920 in chips)
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 (1070 in chips)
Seat 4: yuka17 (1330 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (1720 in chips)
Seat 6: evalettner (2010 in chips)
Seat 7: murmuc (3490 in chips)
Seat 8: Bearenda (1960 in chips)
evalettner: posts small blind 15
murmuc: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Jd Ah]
Bearenda: folds
tntrn: folds
ShaneWard88: raises 90 to 120
yuka17: folds
KizzOurAcez: calls 120
evalettner: folds
murmuc: raises 330 to 450
ShaneWard88: raises 620 to 1070 and is all-in
KizzOurAcez: folds
murmuc: calls 620
*** FLOP *** [6h 9s 3d]
*** TURN *** [6h 9s 3d] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [6h 9s 3d 6s] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
murmuc: shows [Jc Kc] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
ShaneWard88: shows [Jd Ah] (a pair of Sixes)
murmuc collected 2275 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2275 | Rake 0
Board [6h 9s 3d 6s Kh]
Seat 2: tntrn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ShaneWard88 showed [Jd Ah] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: yuka17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: evalettner (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: murmuc (big blind) showed [Jc Kc] and won (2275) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 8: Bearenda folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Now my pre flop raise was pretty standard with AJos and i started the hand well... when Murmuc made a re raise it just brought back memories of his weak raise with 72os and i instantly pushed all in... this is absolutely an incorrect play... my usual style is to flat call and see a flop because i believe i am better than alot of players at these limits at knowing where i stand after the flop and i can outplay them from there... if i had of taken this approach i may have been able to win the hand instead of just tilting and pushing in... after Murmuc insta called and i saw his KJc i was already berating myself for tilting, even tho i knew i had him dominated i was saying to myself "here comes a king" when the turn didnt bring it i had a spark of hope that the maths might actually work... but no the old faithful river brings my tourney to a premature end once again...
Before i exited i wrote in the chat "nh sir well played"... i don't really like chatting and i rarely take out my frusterations in the chat box but when i do i take this approach, i sarcastically compliment my opponents bad play... this serves two purposes... if anybody at the table is paying attention they will realise i am being sarcastic and get some amusement out of it... and also that the muppet usually wont realise that they made a bad play and it was all "luck", they will then believe this is the way to play and the other 9 times out of 10 that this situation arises i will win all their money...
After i left i began writing this... I had to return to the tournament table to get the hand info, in doing so i realized that Murmuc was no longer in the tournament... i grabbed the hand info on the hand he lost... this happend two hands after i was eliminated...
PokerStars Game #34640076817: Tournament #207758224, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/29 3:32:04 ET
Table '207758224 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: tntrn (3870 in chips)
Seat 4: yuka17 (1285 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez (3440 in chips)
Seat 6: evalettner (1455 in chips)
Seat 7: murmuc (1745 in chips)
Seat 8: Bearenda (1705 in chips)
murmuc: posts small blind 15
Bearenda: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
tntrn: folds
yuka17: folds
KizzOurAcez: calls 30
evalettner: calls 30
murmuc: calls 15
Bearenda: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks 8h 5h]
murmuc: checks
Bearenda: checks
KizzOurAcez: bets 90
evalettner: calls 90
murmuc: raises 210 to 300
Bearenda: folds
KizzOurAcez: raises 3110 to 3410 and is all-in
evalettner: folds
murmuc: calls 1415 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1695) returned to KizzOurAcez
*** TURN *** [Ks 8h 5h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 8h 5h 8d] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
murmuc: shows [5s Jh] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
KizzOurAcez: shows [As Kc] (a full house, Kings full of Eights)
KizzOurAcez collected 3640 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3640 | Rake 0
Board [Ks 8h 5h 8d Kd]
Seat 2: tntrn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: yuka17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: KizzOurAcez showed [As Kc] and won (3640) with a full house, Kings full of Eights
Seat 6: evalettner (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: murmuc (small blind) showed [5s Jh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 8: Bearenda (big blind) folded on the Flop
This is one of my biggest problems with losing to muppets... they take all my money on a bad play and then lose it to someone else with another bad play... its like cant you just lose when maths says you should? or at least take my money and realize you now have plenty of chips and don't have to be an idiot anymore? but no they insist on playing like a muppet and just losing all my chips that i deserve... i have noticed that when i get knocked out of a tourney early its rarely to a player who has a chance of winning (these players wont play large pots early even with premier hands just to avoid large swings)...
I realize that i post alot of bad beats and muppet plays and the glaring contradiction i mentioned in a previous post is always in my mind... and i will start posting tourneys that i win and places were my hand holds up against an underdog hand... I do realise that when a bad beat happens it stands out in my mind as opposed to when my hand holds up... but its a bit ridiculous when i can say "here comes a King" when he only has two outs and have it hit... what are the odds of that? The second i find a hand were i am an underdog and i draw out against a better hand i will post it... i cant actually remember that happening and i dont have any in my hand history storage but ill keep my eyes open...
signing off
Shane
Wednesday, October 28, 2009
TAG Muppet
I was playing in a $1 online tourney on PS (PokerStars) tonight to blow off some steam from my usual bad beat knockout in live poker (had a made flush, went all in on the flop and got called by the nut flush draw which hit... not too bad a beat i guess)...
I was playing my usual TAG for a while until i got bored and switched to LAG (Loose Aggressive)... so to be fair i was raising a lot of pots, and i was tilting a bit because i got out drawn when i put a solid player all in with an over pair and they had a lower pocket pair and hit a two outer... in this hand i want to mention that chip2310 had not played more than two hands in the past half an hour so i had them down as a solid tight player... so here is the hand in question...
PokerStars Game #34606158989: Tournament #207542133, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/10/28 11:26:50 ET
Table '207542133 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pntdan (4095 in chips)
Seat 2: ShaneWard88 (480 in chips)
Seat 3: chip2310 (2220 in chips)
Seat 5: kjauls (6495 in chips)
Seat 6: Chanda39 (725 in chips)
Seat 7: johan bels (1700 in chips)
Seat 8: debmarhome (1770 in chips)
Seat 9: wallacesoare (2140 in chips)
johan bels: posts small blind 50
debmarhome: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Jd Ac]
wallacesoare: folds
pntdan: calls 100
ShaneWard88: raises 380 to 480 and is all-in
chip2310: calls 480
kjauls: folds
Chanda39: folds
johan bels: folds
debmarhome: folds
pntdan: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js As 3d]
*** TURN *** [Js As 3d] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Js As 3d Ts] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ShaneWard88: shows [Jd Ac] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
chip2310: shows [Kd Qc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
chip2310 collected 1210 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1210 | Rake 0
Board [Js As 3d Ts Kc]
Seat 1: pntdan folded before Flop
Seat 2: ShaneWard88 showed [Jd Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 3: chip2310 showed [Kd Qc] and won (1210) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: kjauls folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Chanda39 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: johan bels (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: debmarhome (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: wallacesoare folded before Flop (didn't bet)
To be fair i did have an M of only 3.5 so i could be pushing with a wide range (tho if someone understands M they will realize my range is narrowed by the UTG call)... my main disappointment is chip2310's call with KQos... i mean i had him down as a good player at the table and he just threw his image away with this call... I mean its not that bad a call really, because I was raising a lot of pots preflop, but with a limper already in? I believe this is an easy fold...
I actually commented when i flopped two pair that the call was disappointing... and then the runner runner was inevitable with my luck... sooo i guess its back to studying the right way to play so i dont get so frusterated with these players...
A very annoyed Shane signing off
Shane
I was playing my usual TAG for a while until i got bored and switched to LAG (Loose Aggressive)... so to be fair i was raising a lot of pots, and i was tilting a bit because i got out drawn when i put a solid player all in with an over pair and they had a lower pocket pair and hit a two outer... in this hand i want to mention that chip2310 had not played more than two hands in the past half an hour so i had them down as a solid tight player... so here is the hand in question...
PokerStars Game #34606158989: Tournament #207542133, $1.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/10/28 11:26:50 ET
Table '207542133 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pntdan (4095 in chips)
Seat 2: ShaneWard88 (480 in chips)
Seat 3: chip2310 (2220 in chips)
Seat 5: kjauls (6495 in chips)
Seat 6: Chanda39 (725 in chips)
Seat 7: johan bels (1700 in chips)
Seat 8: debmarhome (1770 in chips)
Seat 9: wallacesoare (2140 in chips)
johan bels: posts small blind 50
debmarhome: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShaneWard88 [Jd Ac]
wallacesoare: folds
pntdan: calls 100
ShaneWard88: raises 380 to 480 and is all-in
chip2310: calls 480
kjauls: folds
Chanda39: folds
johan bels: folds
debmarhome: folds
pntdan: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js As 3d]
*** TURN *** [Js As 3d] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Js As 3d Ts] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ShaneWard88: shows [Jd Ac] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
chip2310: shows [Kd Qc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
chip2310 collected 1210 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1210 | Rake 0
Board [Js As 3d Ts Kc]
Seat 1: pntdan folded before Flop
Seat 2: ShaneWard88 showed [Jd Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 3: chip2310 showed [Kd Qc] and won (1210) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: kjauls folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Chanda39 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: johan bels (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: debmarhome (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: wallacesoare folded before Flop (didn't bet)
To be fair i did have an M of only 3.5 so i could be pushing with a wide range (tho if someone understands M they will realize my range is narrowed by the UTG call)... my main disappointment is chip2310's call with KQos... i mean i had him down as a good player at the table and he just threw his image away with this call... I mean its not that bad a call really, because I was raising a lot of pots preflop, but with a limper already in? I believe this is an easy fold...
I actually commented when i flopped two pair that the call was disappointing... and then the runner runner was inevitable with my luck... sooo i guess its back to studying the right way to play so i dont get so frusterated with these players...
A very annoyed Shane signing off
Shane
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
I'm a Muppet
So tonight i played at the Attfield again, i was placed at a table with 6 muppets and one state champion... i started out playing my usual TAG style... i made one bluffing maneuver against a muppet who check called me down with top pair and a weak kicker... a standard play among muppets...
These people seem to think the best way to win is that when they make a pair they check... i cant comprehend how they do this, i would understand it if they think they are beat and are trying to check it down to the showdown... but if you bet... they will call, and they will call pot sized bets and even overbets... this is THE worst way to play... you just giving all your advantage to your opponent, they can just check to any draw and get free cards to beat you... the other way they play is when they pick up a draw... they simply call every post flop bet in the hope that they will hit...
So i made a stupid bluff that i should have just checked down and i lost about half my stack... i changed my style to super tight in an attempt to make the break... i made the break and gained another 2000 chips...
After the break i picked up 77 in middle position and decided to test my luck... i only limped in (raising would only achieve in building a bigger pot which is exactly what i want to avoid)... the SB called and the BB checked... the flop came 6 4 4... it was checked around to me and i made a pot sized bet... the SB then went all in... i thought about it for a while and folded, he could have been making a move but i doubted it... he showed 6 4.
A few hands later i picked up 10 10 and wasn't going to make the same mistake twice... i raised to 3 times the BB, the BB called my bet... the flop came 9c 6s Ac... I bet the 1/2 the pot... the BB thought for a bit and called... at this point i either had them on a club flush draw or top pair and weak kicker... the next card was a Qd, i believe at this point i picked up a tell, my opponent sat up straighter in their chair and checked their cards that their eyes darted to their remaining chips (i little over the pot) i paused for a moment and checked... the SB went all in... here i was torn between my nice pot odds ( over 2 to 1) and my read on my opponent, i spent about 3 mins thinking... during this time my opponent started showing their hand to the people around them i assumed they wouldn't be showing a bluff to their peers with i proud smile on their faces so i folded... my opponent proudly turned over Q9os (offsuit)...
My opponent then proceeded to explain to me as if it was my first time playing that if i had of bet more on the flop they would have folded... i smile and nod sarcastically... then a player next to her pipes up and says... "I love playing against you people who take it so seriously, i don't do any maths or any strategy i just look at my cards and if they look pretty i play them, and when i win you get so angry, I love it!"... i simply smile and nod at him too, i then decide that if they can play like that and win... why cant i?
The very next hand i get dealt 3 3... I'm 2nd UTG and UTG limps in... i decide to take my newly acquired friends advice and play like a muppet... i push my remaining chips into the middle (6 times the BB) exclaiming that "I like your style"... the button calls the BB calls (all in) and UTG calls... i smile to myself knowing that i will win because I'm playing like a muppet and they always seem to win...
The flop comes 4 4 6... and checks all around then 10, and again checks, then Q... UTG picks up her cards and flashes them to the people sitting around her, in the process she shows me her Q 10... i muck my cards and walk out muttering to myself about how i can be out muppeted...
*Sigh*
Shane
These people seem to think the best way to win is that when they make a pair they check... i cant comprehend how they do this, i would understand it if they think they are beat and are trying to check it down to the showdown... but if you bet... they will call, and they will call pot sized bets and even overbets... this is THE worst way to play... you just giving all your advantage to your opponent, they can just check to any draw and get free cards to beat you... the other way they play is when they pick up a draw... they simply call every post flop bet in the hope that they will hit...
So i made a stupid bluff that i should have just checked down and i lost about half my stack... i changed my style to super tight in an attempt to make the break... i made the break and gained another 2000 chips...
After the break i picked up 77 in middle position and decided to test my luck... i only limped in (raising would only achieve in building a bigger pot which is exactly what i want to avoid)... the SB called and the BB checked... the flop came 6 4 4... it was checked around to me and i made a pot sized bet... the SB then went all in... i thought about it for a while and folded, he could have been making a move but i doubted it... he showed 6 4.
A few hands later i picked up 10 10 and wasn't going to make the same mistake twice... i raised to 3 times the BB, the BB called my bet... the flop came 9c 6s Ac... I bet the 1/2 the pot... the BB thought for a bit and called... at this point i either had them on a club flush draw or top pair and weak kicker... the next card was a Qd, i believe at this point i picked up a tell, my opponent sat up straighter in their chair and checked their cards that their eyes darted to their remaining chips (i little over the pot) i paused for a moment and checked... the SB went all in... here i was torn between my nice pot odds ( over 2 to 1) and my read on my opponent, i spent about 3 mins thinking... during this time my opponent started showing their hand to the people around them i assumed they wouldn't be showing a bluff to their peers with i proud smile on their faces so i folded... my opponent proudly turned over Q9os (offsuit)...
My opponent then proceeded to explain to me as if it was my first time playing that if i had of bet more on the flop they would have folded... i smile and nod sarcastically... then a player next to her pipes up and says... "I love playing against you people who take it so seriously, i don't do any maths or any strategy i just look at my cards and if they look pretty i play them, and when i win you get so angry, I love it!"... i simply smile and nod at him too, i then decide that if they can play like that and win... why cant i?
The very next hand i get dealt 3 3... I'm 2nd UTG and UTG limps in... i decide to take my newly acquired friends advice and play like a muppet... i push my remaining chips into the middle (6 times the BB) exclaiming that "I like your style"... the button calls the BB calls (all in) and UTG calls... i smile to myself knowing that i will win because I'm playing like a muppet and they always seem to win...
The flop comes 4 4 6... and checks all around then 10, and again checks, then Q... UTG picks up her cards and flashes them to the people sitting around her, in the process she shows me her Q 10... i muck my cards and walk out muttering to myself about how i can be out muppeted...
*Sigh*
Shane
Muppet Philosophy
When it comes to bad poker players a lot of the time i can handle the bad plays and misunderstandings because i know that in the long run i should come out in front, theoretically that is...
The main reason i get upset is when the muppet assumes because they have been playing for a few years and believe they know what they are doing, that they are so much better than everyone else... and far be it for anyone to criticize their playing abilities with mathematics or proven strategies...
These players really get under my skin, they look at me as if I'm an idiot when i release an exasperated sigh after being rivered to a 6 outer... then they assume I'm the muppet for not realizing the old faithful river would pull them out of their predicament...
I do realize as you probably have if you are reading this that there is a glaring contradiction to the points i raise... this being that if muppets are so terrible at poker why am i forever whinging about being beaten by them? this is in fact a good point that i have been pondering over for quite a while now... it is the sole reason that i still play micro stakes or free poker... i believe that if i can't beat the players who lack a basic understanding of fundamental concepts how am i meant to beat the players who not only understand it but can use it to beat me, i wouldn't stand a chance...
So i have come to the conclusion that i am not going to move up in limits until i am winning on a regular basis, until that time i am going to continue to study and play my heart out... hopefully with time i will be able to best the amateurs and become more than a lowly amateur myself
signing off
Shane
The main reason i get upset is when the muppet assumes because they have been playing for a few years and believe they know what they are doing, that they are so much better than everyone else... and far be it for anyone to criticize their playing abilities with mathematics or proven strategies...
These players really get under my skin, they look at me as if I'm an idiot when i release an exasperated sigh after being rivered to a 6 outer... then they assume I'm the muppet for not realizing the old faithful river would pull them out of their predicament...
I do realize as you probably have if you are reading this that there is a glaring contradiction to the points i raise... this being that if muppets are so terrible at poker why am i forever whinging about being beaten by them? this is in fact a good point that i have been pondering over for quite a while now... it is the sole reason that i still play micro stakes or free poker... i believe that if i can't beat the players who lack a basic understanding of fundamental concepts how am i meant to beat the players who not only understand it but can use it to beat me, i wouldn't stand a chance...
So i have come to the conclusion that i am not going to move up in limits until i am winning on a regular basis, until that time i am going to continue to study and play my heart out... hopefully with time i will be able to best the amateurs and become more than a lowly amateur myself
signing off
Shane
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
Muppeted
So tonight i was playing free league APL (Australian Poker League) at the Attfeild tavern in Maddington...
I started off playing my usual pre-break poker... which is ultra tight.. the reason being that you start with 2000 chips and the blinds at 50 and 100 meaning that your "M" starts at about 13 (If you are unfamiliar with what an "M" is... simply Google "Dan Harrington's M" and you'll know what im talking about)... as you have probably noted... the advised play for an "M" of 10-20 is to loosen up and start raising in position with mediocre hands... this is all well and good if the rest of the field realized the strategic implications of the position, the sad but true fact is that they don't... if i raise 3x the BB (three times the Big Blind) then i will get 4 or 5 callers anyway...
So its tough going until after the break when everybody gets an extra 1000 chips, plus another 1000 if they have used their spend card... after the break i had caught a couple of hands and chipped up a fair amount ( i believe i had about 3500 in chips) after the break i changed gears and started raising and 3 betting people, this seems to work to a degree in the free league because people realize that their chip stack is getting increasingly smaller in relation to the blinds (their "M") so they feel they need to play tighter... this strategy is actually a double edged sword because in me raising a lot of pots people become frustrated and start calling with their usual garbage... so i need to be careful in some spots...
Now to the hand in question... 500 and 1000 blinds and i had about 7000 (actually a larger stack at this point in the tournament) it is folded around to a player that i am unfamiliar with in the cutoff (on the right of the button), this player had 5500 in chips and chose to call... i had not seen this player play many hands at all so i assumed he would be your usual TAG (Tight Aggressive) player who would fold most hands and come in raising with their good hands...
All others folded and i elected to raise to 3000 total due to the fact that i believed he would have raised a premium hand and therefore called with a so so hand, and would fold to a decent bet... this player thought for about 30 seconds and called... at this point i had him on either a small pair (88- 22), KQs,KJs,J10s or a smallish suited A...
The flop came 4d 6h 8c... Ive flopped broad way... at this point im thinking about how i can get all his chips into the pot... i believe that this player is in fact a half decent player ( due to the fact that i hadnt seen him play more than 2 pots since joining the table) so i elected to check knowing that if he had any of the afore mentioned hands that i had put him on, this flop would be begging for a bet after i show weakness, not to mention the fact that the pot has 6200 and he only has 2500 left and an all in bet could win back about 2.5 times his stack... He elects to check.
After the check on the flop my range for his hands broadens a touch due to the fact that a decent player would have at least made a probe bet to find out where they are... the turn was a 7s... this card means that any 5 beats me, it is hard for me to believe that he was sitting on a 5 pre-flop but it would explain his check post flop, due to the scary card and the fact that the pot is big enough for me to be happy to win without a fight... i bet 2000...
He thinks for about 10 seconds and goes all in... right now i have no idea what he has but i assume im best, in either case im obviously pot committed so i call the extra 500... he turns over Ks 9d... hmmmmmmmmmmm
I look at his cards and realize that he is just another run of the mill free league muppet... looks like my original observations were way off... he does have 8 outs ( four 5's and four 10's) but realistically he should have folded preflop...
I am thinking about how ill stack my chips after taking this muppet for all he's worth when the old faithful muppet-loving river shows a 10c and i stare in disbelief as the muppet takes all my chips and has a look on his face as if he new the straight was coming and its just routine for him...
I instantly go on tilt and go all in blind in the small blind... i believe that this is probably the worst part of my game... as soon as i get a bad beat i go on tilt and then its bye bye chippies... in fact i had A9o and got called by KJo and K6 in the BB... just more confirmation that i continue to give people in the free league too much credit ( naturally i lose to 2 pair)...
signing off...
Shane
I started off playing my usual pre-break poker... which is ultra tight.. the reason being that you start with 2000 chips and the blinds at 50 and 100 meaning that your "M" starts at about 13 (If you are unfamiliar with what an "M" is... simply Google "Dan Harrington's M" and you'll know what im talking about)... as you have probably noted... the advised play for an "M" of 10-20 is to loosen up and start raising in position with mediocre hands... this is all well and good if the rest of the field realized the strategic implications of the position, the sad but true fact is that they don't... if i raise 3x the BB (three times the Big Blind) then i will get 4 or 5 callers anyway...
So its tough going until after the break when everybody gets an extra 1000 chips, plus another 1000 if they have used their spend card... after the break i had caught a couple of hands and chipped up a fair amount ( i believe i had about 3500 in chips) after the break i changed gears and started raising and 3 betting people, this seems to work to a degree in the free league because people realize that their chip stack is getting increasingly smaller in relation to the blinds (their "M") so they feel they need to play tighter... this strategy is actually a double edged sword because in me raising a lot of pots people become frustrated and start calling with their usual garbage... so i need to be careful in some spots...
Now to the hand in question... 500 and 1000 blinds and i had about 7000 (actually a larger stack at this point in the tournament) it is folded around to a player that i am unfamiliar with in the cutoff (on the right of the button), this player had 5500 in chips and chose to call... i had not seen this player play many hands at all so i assumed he would be your usual TAG (Tight Aggressive) player who would fold most hands and come in raising with their good hands...
All others folded and i elected to raise to 3000 total due to the fact that i believed he would have raised a premium hand and therefore called with a so so hand, and would fold to a decent bet... this player thought for about 30 seconds and called... at this point i had him on either a small pair (88- 22), KQs,KJs,J10s or a smallish suited A...
The flop came 4d 6h 8c... Ive flopped broad way... at this point im thinking about how i can get all his chips into the pot... i believe that this player is in fact a half decent player ( due to the fact that i hadnt seen him play more than 2 pots since joining the table) so i elected to check knowing that if he had any of the afore mentioned hands that i had put him on, this flop would be begging for a bet after i show weakness, not to mention the fact that the pot has 6200 and he only has 2500 left and an all in bet could win back about 2.5 times his stack... He elects to check.
After the check on the flop my range for his hands broadens a touch due to the fact that a decent player would have at least made a probe bet to find out where they are... the turn was a 7s... this card means that any 5 beats me, it is hard for me to believe that he was sitting on a 5 pre-flop but it would explain his check post flop, due to the scary card and the fact that the pot is big enough for me to be happy to win without a fight... i bet 2000...
He thinks for about 10 seconds and goes all in... right now i have no idea what he has but i assume im best, in either case im obviously pot committed so i call the extra 500... he turns over Ks 9d... hmmmmmmmmmmm
I look at his cards and realize that he is just another run of the mill free league muppet... looks like my original observations were way off... he does have 8 outs ( four 5's and four 10's) but realistically he should have folded preflop...
I am thinking about how ill stack my chips after taking this muppet for all he's worth when the old faithful muppet-loving river shows a 10c and i stare in disbelief as the muppet takes all my chips and has a look on his face as if he new the straight was coming and its just routine for him...
I instantly go on tilt and go all in blind in the small blind... i believe that this is probably the worst part of my game... as soon as i get a bad beat i go on tilt and then its bye bye chippies... in fact i had A9o and got called by KJo and K6 in the BB... just more confirmation that i continue to give people in the free league too much credit ( naturally i lose to 2 pair)...
signing off...
Shane
Introduction
So this is going to be my blog page...
Its mostly going to be about poker (mainly No Limit Texas-Holdem) bad beats and how frustrated i get with muppets, either live or online... They are mostly the same...
The definition of a Muppet in case you don't know is... a poker player who is terrible at poker yet still seems to win... a Muppet relies on luck to win and discards skill as a useless and insignificant part of a largely luck based game...
Anybody with half a brain and an interest in poker understands that skill is required in order to succeed and that if you want to play a luck based game go and play roulette...
If anybody wishes to dispute this irrefutable fact then you simply need to look to the world scale and see the professional poker players that make a living out of only playing poker... have you ever seen a professional roulette player? I think not!
The fact that there can be an obvious domination from a few over the many should be all the evidence required to prove the fact that skill is a required skill to become a successful poker player.
Its mostly going to be about poker (mainly No Limit Texas-Holdem) bad beats and how frustrated i get with muppets, either live or online... They are mostly the same...
The definition of a Muppet in case you don't know is... a poker player who is terrible at poker yet still seems to win... a Muppet relies on luck to win and discards skill as a useless and insignificant part of a largely luck based game...
Anybody with half a brain and an interest in poker understands that skill is required in order to succeed and that if you want to play a luck based game go and play roulette...
If anybody wishes to dispute this irrefutable fact then you simply need to look to the world scale and see the professional poker players that make a living out of only playing poker... have you ever seen a professional roulette player? I think not!
The fact that there can be an obvious domination from a few over the many should be all the evidence required to prove the fact that skill is a required skill to become a successful poker player.
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